Not quite a revelation, but solid enough and a good option for those “black pepper tasters” that get heavy spicy and savory notes from some of the other vanilla ice cream options but still want some buttery richness.
The vanilla note here seems very similar to the vanilla in their Vanilla Cream and Vanilla Buttercream. Same kind of brighter “commercial” vanilla flavor without much in the way of darker, spicy nuance. It’s a good, bright vanilla without anything too weird or aggressive fruitiness… but it’s more of a bargain or soft-serve type vanilla note. The richness here makes a bit more satisfying vanilla than Flavourart Vanilla Ice Cream or TPA Vanilla swirl, but it’s still a bit one-dimensional.
The flavor here is kind of buttery more than eggy, which kind of works for a richer Philadelphia style ice cream? There isn’t anything too aggressively funky and butyric here, but it does have enough common in with actual dairy to sell the actual ice cream. It seems kind of front-loaded on that richer buttery note without a ton of that less rich creamy backend.
I’m tasting some richer diary, but I’m not getting a ton of mouthfeel out of this. I know Vape Train has a French Vanilla Ice Cream that’s supposed to be a bit richer and eggier, but I haven’t had that to compare. It’s definitely thinner than the richer ice cream concentrates like TPA Vanilla Bean Ice Cream, Liquid Barn Vanilla Ice Cream, or Hangsen French Vanilla Ice Cream. I’d call it maybe a bit fuller then Flavorwest Vanilla Bean Ice Cream or Capella Vanilla Bean Ice Cream.
I don’t feel like this is particularly concentrated, and I’m needing a pretty decent percentage to really set this off. Testing this at 2%, it’s pretty muted. You can taste the vanilla, you can taste the vanilla, but it doesn’t feel particularly filled in. It doesn’t seem to be a very linear flavor, in that a small percentage doesn’t taste like a lighter ice cream flavor so much as a rough sketch of the flavor. 6% works considerably better, and it actually feels like an ice cream up here. It still isn’t a very strong flavor at 6%, and could conceivably go a bit higher for an actual ice cream base. Before we bust out the pitchforks, the strength seems largely in line with the aforementioned Flavor West and Capella offerings.
With all that said, where does this fit it into the universe of available ice cream flavors? If you don’t taste black pepper from TPA Vanilla Bean Ice Cream or Liquid Barn Vanilla ice cream… this probably won’t dethrone those. You lucky, lucky people can continue vaping your pure Acetyl Propinyl and party. This isn’t as rich as Hangsen Vanilla Ice Cream (a.k.a French Vanilla Ice Cream, noone has proven those are actually different flavors) and so it isn’t going to have the same kind of applicability for that rich ice cream smoothing in mixing. I’d use it instead of Flavorwest or Capella vanilla bean ice creams if you have access and the boost in richness is worth the added expense and difficulty in sourcing to you.
Setup: Recoil w/ flavor barrel, Dual 12 wrap 24g 3.5mm SS316 @.32 ohms. 60w power, 450F temp limit. Full Cotton Wicks.
Testing: Vape Train Vanilla Ice Cream, 2 and 6%, 60/40 VG/PG base, Steeped 30+ days.
Profile: Buttery Philadelphia style ice cream without any heavy eggy notes. Tastes fairly rich, but doesn’t feel all that full. Prominent and bright commercial vanilla flavor.
Off-Flavors: Lacking some of the body I’d want with those kind of buttery notes.
Throat Hit: Light. Not as smooth as I’d hope for and can seem a bit dry and harsh occasionally.
Percentage Recommendation: Go higher than you’d think. Usage range more in like FW and CAP than TPA. 4-8% for an ice cream base, depending on how rich and how much vanilla you want.
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