Vape Train Red Dates


I’ll be the first to admit I don’t eat a ton of dates. I realize I’m a boor, but that’s just how it shakes out. My mental picture of date flavor is basically dry, sweeter, and chewy fig, with some almost fermented nuttiness. Thinking about it, I should probably eat more dates. This lines up with that mental image real well. This is kind of awesome.

The main profile here is a darker, syrupy fruit note. Not quite as bright as a prune, but very much in same genre. I’d probably call it a cross between a sultana/golden raisin and the aforementioned prune. Dates are almost brutally sweet, and I think this manages to capture that without being completely cloying. Relatively full vape, with a sweeter body, syrupy base, but not much popping off in the top notes.

This isn’t actually musky, which is pretty cool. It manages to sidestep any kind of heavy floral component. The only off note I really get, and I don’t enough to call it a true off-note, is a slight malty or cereal note to this. It’s really not at all overwhelming, but if you pick out a vague bakery in a mix using this concentrate, it may be the cause.

So, we come to the exciting part. I think this is going to end up being super useful. It’s a dark fruit note that isn’t floral or musky. I’m definitely still a FLV Fig adherent, but it is a musky, musky boy. It’s my favorite super dark fruit note to use in tobacco mixes and some bakeries, but it’s ultra potent and requires a ton of balancing where even an extra .05% can make a huge difference in recipes. Can you make a fig newton with FLV Fig? Sort of. I think. I tried it, it was okay.

This is probably going to work better for pretty much any bakery fig or date note though. That slighty bakery finish is going to make this a bit harder to work into a straight fruit mix, but it’s basically going to finish if you’ve got this paired up against anything with any kind of grain, breadiness, or even a drier, savory tobacco. This should end up being kind of a chameleon of a flavor, useful for bolstering any kind of dried fruit notes. I could see this working well to darken plums, apples, cherries, apricots, and raisins. This is also going to work really well as a fruit note in any tobacco mix where the more ammonia-ish muskiness of FLV Fig isn’t going to work well.

Testing concentration here, this strikes me as fairly flexible. Testing this at 2%, it’s maybe a bit light. There are the outlines of those darker fruit notes but it’s missing some depth and syrupy sweetness. This isn’t blown at 6% and is maybe working a bit better. It’s deeper, richer, and those malty bakery notes are a little richer. I’m pretty convinced this could be pushed up even higher without anything too drastically weird showing up, although it’d get fairly pricy quickly and I’m probably getting enough out of it at 6%. I’d probably be around 5% as a primary note, and 1-2% as an accent. You do you, though.

Just some more editorializing, but this is pretty cool overall.


Setup: Recoil w/ flavor barrel, Dual 12 wrap 24g 3.5mm SS316 @.32 ohms. 60w power, 450F temp limit. Full Cotton Wicks.

Testing: Vape Train Red Dates, 2 and 6%, 60/40 VG/PG base, Steeped 14 days.

Profile: Dark, sweet, and syrupy date flavor. Sort of a cross between a prune and golden raisin.

Off-Flavors: Light maltiness. Nothing floral or musky though.

Throat Hit: Light. A bit of bite, but nothing intense for a fruit.

Percentage Recommendation: 1-2% as an accent to darken other fruits. 5% as a primary dark fig or date component.

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