Vape Train Sorbet Base

IMG_0067Minty, thick, and melon-y with a light musk. Vape Train Australia, being from The Upside Down, clarifies on their product page “Note: USA customers, this flavour would be considered a Sherbet base. Note: Australian / UK customers, this is not a sherbet with an effervescent effect.” Based on the intended sherbet profile, I’m not sure how this really fits?

A sherbet, in the American sense I guess, is like ice cream with pretty minimal butterfat and usually involving some fruit. So basically the half-way point between a sorbet (no butterfat) and a lighter Philadelphia style ice cream. I’m not picking up any dairy here. Not even the super light kind of dairy that you’d get in a sherbet. I’m going out on a limb and calling it completely bereft of dairy notes. Which is a lot on context to say this this doesn’t really resemble sherbet and it’s probably closer to an actual sorbet (which is the original misnomer for the American Market.) CIRCLES.

With all that preamble, this is a bit odd. If I had to simplify, I’d call it a melon and mint sorbet? This definitely isn’t a neutral sorbet or sherbet base and as such, you’re going to have to work around what’s already here.

I get a whole lot of mint out of this right up front. The cooling effect here varies quite a bit based on percentage, but it seems to have both a menthol and more neutral cooling effect. You definitely get some of the colder bite of the menthol right up front, and there’s a fairly prominent actual spearmint flavor going on as well. Some of the cooling of the exhale makes me think they’ve got some additional neutral cooling on top of that menthol, but the menthol and accompanying mint taste is pretty well inescapable. It’s cold, and sorbet is cold, but that mint limits the application here.

There’s also a melon flavor in here. It comes out after that initial burst of mint. It feels a bit like a generic candy “melon” flavor. It’s not quite a watermelon, and it’s definitely not a cantaloupe or honeydew. It feels more along the lines of INW Melon, FLV Wild Melon, or VT Shisha Melon than any distinct variety. It’s fairly pleasant overall, with a more candied sweetness to it. It does seem to have some musk to it. It’s not overwhelming at lower percentages, and it’s kind of a nice musk at higher percentages, but it’s in there and you’ll have to deal with it.

The biggest argument for using this as some sort of sorbet base is the texture. It’s relatively thick, even up against all that cooling. It seems almost a bit waxy, but also damp. It’s a really interesting mouthfeel. But it does seem to kind of deaden flavor. With the way the flavor is structured, I get bright mint up front, and melon and musk on the back, but the middle where that texture hits is just sort of dead in terms of flavor. The effect is more pronounced at higher percentages, but it’s still in there down low.

That flavor dead-spot seems to affect mixes as well. Trying this at .5% with some TPA Raspberry on a couple day steep, that same hollowness is showing up. It’s a bit hard to visualize, but it’s a really specific kind of muting right in the recipe. I haven’t had much luck turning up the accompanying flavors to really punch through. It reminds me a lot of the dead spots in the RF SC candy bases, and seems to have the same weird muting issues. Mixing low with this, and with enough added flavor you may be able to get around it, but you’re still going to be locked into something that works with the mint and the melon.

Honestly, I think I prefer this as a single flavor, at least so far in my mixing with this. It’s a pretty cool icy mint and melon and I kind of dig the musky accent on the back. If I were mixing this as a solo, i’d be around 5-6%.

So yeah, some kind of sorbet and interesting enough, but this hasn’t clicked as any sort of “base” for me.

Setup: Recoil w/ flavor barrel, Dual 12 wrap 24g 3.5mm SS316 @.32 ohms. 60w power, 450F temp limit. Full Cotton Wicks.

Testing: Vape Train Sorbet Base, 3 and 7%, 60/40 VG/PG base, Steeped apx. 2 months.

Profile: Mint and melon sorbet with a thicker mouthfeel. Fairly mentholated.

Off-Flavors: Melon on the backend gets a bit musky. “Sorbet” texture seems to deaden flavors in mixes.

Throat Hit: Moderate, but menthol. Nothing weird or unexpected.

Percentage Recommendation: This seems to mute other fruit flavors and the mint can get pretty intense. In mixes, I’d go between .5-1% to try to minimize that where it’s unwanted. I think it works really well as a solo flavor around 5% but I like mint and don’t mind some musk.

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This concentrate was provided to me by the manufacturer with no additional compensation. There was no editorial influence. I have no ongoing business relationships with Vape Train or its employees.

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